Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-03-10
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Thunderbird Meeting Details :
- Tuesday, Mar 10th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) Changed UTC time
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Agenda
- Who's taking minutes? --> bienvenu
- Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.
Action Items
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Thunderbird 3 Beta 3
- Proposed Freezes ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
- Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-24
- Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-26
- Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-04-28
- l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-04-30
- Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-05
- dmose is release driver
- gozer is build engineer
- Blockers/Wanted
- Proposed Blocking
- Fixed:
- TB 3.0b3 - blocking: 21 (+7)
- TB 3.0b3 - wanted: 6 (+2)
- We want to work on user experience bugs first so we can iterate on them https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=b3ux
Thunderbird 3
- davida driving now to allow dmose to focus on 3.0b3
- Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap
- Blockers
- blocking-thunderbird3+ 120 (+5)
- TB 3 Needs: 3 (-1)
- Proposed Blocking
- Proposed Blockers (all): 16 (-1)
- Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
- If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don't want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
QA Updates
- Testing updates for releases prior to beta2
- Organized a DUPME bug day -> 10 bugs got changes on the dupme query
- Will continue with bugdays until we have a better schedule for beta 3.
- Hope we will be able to update prior releases to beta2 in oreder to figure out what is crashig in beta2.
- Working on figuring out how to get more end-users involved in testing.
- Trying to get all major linux distro's supported.
Marketing Updates
- Tb3 beta 2 press roundup
- Met with the GetSatisfaction team and working through details of how to best utilize their service.
- For PR purposes, it's best to shoot for release Tu-early Th.
Roundtable
Google Summer of Code
Please add your suggestions to the brainstorming page, doesn't matter if you don't want to be a mentor, ideas are the important part at this stage. Remember it needs to be about an 8-week chunk.
Students start discussing ideas on 18th March, start applying on 23rd March.
Gozer worked with Mozilla release to figure out how to upgrade TB 3 b1 users to b2 and we just need to do some testing before triggering the upgrade.
Wayne suggested we might want to update the release notes w/ issues found after b2 shipped.
Status Updates
davida
- missed his flight, so really grumpy.
dmose
- lots of driving work
- drafted 3.0b3 schedule and strawman tb3 schedule
- message-header patch work
- gloda review work (should finish this week!)
goals for this week:
- draft 3.0b3 sub-milestones
- draft SF space plan
- 1 hr/day code-reviews
- finish message-header patch
nth10sd
- bug 326483 - create sample email for test; seems WFM.
- Won't Save Incoming Mail Attachment if Chinese file name
- bug 460605 - Initial testing done, waiting on more info.
- Message Reader: header pane context menu popup takes too long for contacts in long list with lots of addresses
- Some security bug triage.
- Bugdays, QA, etc.
Standard8
- Reviews
- Bug triage
- Activity Manager
- bug 477862 Activity Manager: activity list doesn't clear permanently until restart.
- bug 482253 Fix Activity Manager's themes so that text can be read when window is not focused, and make it easier for themes to be applied across all activity types.
- bug 481431 Provide a centralised alert/message service in mailnews to allow different front-end displays for alerts.
- bug 482466 Hook activity manager into the new alert/error listening mechanism.
- Misc
- bug 479844 Consolidate checking for messages to send later into one function.
Two week goals:
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Reduce review backlog to zero - bug 450134 - Autocomplete perf improvement (inc restore autocomplete on other email addresses).
- Proposed a patch for this, got review comments, need to improve.
- bug 440794 - Implement policy for sending in background, pref off to begin with.
- Defferred due to activity manager improvements (and heading towards non-modal alerts).
- bug 457296 - Design interfaces for a separate service (i.e. not directly linked to address book) to determine allowing remote images to load or not.
- Initial design for back-end posted.
- Need to figure out storage mechanism.
- Have ideas for Pref UI changes.
asuth
bienvenu
- Reviews and driving
- Made some progress on autoconfig in separate repo, fixed windows and mac themes, fixed initial folder discovery, etc.
- allow setMsgWindow on mailnews url to null out msg window, and fix nntp code not to accidentally clear msg window bug 481198
- make auto sync use IMAP STATUS command to check if a folder has changed instead of SELECT bug 428266
- Fixed for crash in mailbox discovery bug 376192
- Fixed crash on startup when imap server sends list response with trailing delimiter (not /) bug 480870
- Set up new development machine
Next Week
- Make autoconfig handle duplicate smtp servers, and other autoconfig repo
- More work on smart mailboxes patch.
- Drive asuth's view patch in
gozer
- Build
- Try server (in progress)
- Betatest updates ready for Alpha*/Beta1 => Beta2 bug 471584
- Complete updates all around except for 3.0b1 Linux/Mac en-US
- Learned a lot more about patcher!
- When/How do we go live with this ?
- Clobberer server! (gozer/Standard8 have access, if you want it too, file a bug)
- Web
- New website got a few performance fixups and tweaks
- Saw > 2,200,000 hits in the last 24 hours
- avg of 10,710 unique daily visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week
- 65k unique visits to the 3.0b2 Start page in the last week
- New website got a few performance fixups and tweaks
- Infrastructure
- Buildbot timeouts issues look like they have finally vanished beyond the 'acceptable' horizon
- bug 476677 & bug 476649
- Various fixes, mostly about giving Buildbot more/faster I/O
- Buildbot timeouts issues look like they have finally vanished beyond the 'acceptable' horizon
80% recovered from the sick... better
clarkbw
- worked on hiring, and other miscellaneous things
- 1-2 week goal for landing autoconfig is usefully aggressive.
wsmwk
- bugs resolved: 21
- bugday
- updated irc instructions
- posting in mozillazine and mozilla.feedback.thunderbird.prerelease
- still pushing on crash-stats performance
beckley
Penelope
- bug 481855 review accepted
- bug 480899 needs some more work
- I've been looking in to how to support filter actions that detach attachments from the message, and discussing this with bienvenu. This may require a modification to the filter code to allow asynchronous filter actions.
KaiRo
rkent
My mailnews work has focused recently on three primary activity threads:
- Bayesian filter feature extensions, including more precise control of application, and use with rss and nntp
- bug 478840 (landed) Support inherited folder properties
- bug 481676 (in review) Move bayes listeners to nsMsgDBFolder
- bug 471833 (next) Provide hooks to control calculation of bayesian filter traits
- Prevent loss of message database information
- bug 459680 (partial solution in review) Moves and copies should move all database info
- bug 340886 (not started) Junk status changes to "unknown" when I delete or separate an attachment
- Search all address fields capability
- bug 310359 (parent, partial solution landed) search all address fields capability (Bcc:s too!)
- bug 381667 (in review) Support BCC in message summary files
- (unfiled) add BCC to All Messages search
- (unfiled) support reordering of message search terms
- (unfiled) support all message search in online IMAP search
I'm largely review limited at the moment, which I expect to get continually worse, so I think I only have another couple of weeks of mailnews patches before I can pretty much kiss further TB3 work goodbye.
rebron
- Competitive analysis work of other messaging clients/services.
- Evaluating Add-on contest for Thunderbird.
Tsk
- Done :
- DUPME event - not satisfied by results
- Attended MozCamp/Utrecht
- Met a few interested people
- Once STEEL's out we should attend Extension Workshop
- Continuing:
- QA plan
- Engaging communities
- Todo:
- Try to communicate more effectively
- explain what and why QA is important - to try to get w few more people onboard
- Plan tb3.0b3 testing
Attendees
bienvenu, dmose, standard8, gozer, clarkbw, ludovic, rebron, wsmwk, beckley, kairo, nth10sd