Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-12-16
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
- Tuesday, Dec 16, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda
- Who's taking minutes? -->
asuthnth10sd (Gary!) - Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.
Calls For Help
Action Items
New
- dmose - Draw up straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox.
- dmose - Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.
Open
Closed
- dmose: Add simon and gozer to drivers list
Thunderbird 3 Beta 2
- Drivers meeting last Thursday.
- Probably not much would be done in the next week or two -- Christmas / New Year.
- Dates below may get pushed back.
- dmose notes about Gecko's code freeze dates in Jan.
- Standard8: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.
- clarkbw is release driver
- gozer is build engineer
- (Slushy?) Proposed String freeze from: Monday 26th January 23:59 PST
- (Slushy?) Proposed Code freeze from: Thursday 29th January 23:59 PST
- We need to make decisions as we triage blocking bugs below - will they eventually make it into TB3?
- i.e. get them assigned or push them off..
- Those that get pushed out beyond TB3 should have a flag to track them - dmose to suggest this to drivers.
- Sidenote - SeaMonkey probably will release an Alpha in line with TB3b1, a Beta in line with TB3rc, and a final a couple of weeks after TB3.
- Blockers/Wanted
- TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 75 (2 down from last week)
- TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 27
- Proposed Blocking
- Proposed Blockers (b2): Query TBD
- Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 10
- Fixed:
Thunderbird 3
QA Updates
- Past bugdays
- Since bugdays started, we have commented in or closed ALL Thunderbird UNCO bugs (excl. enhancements) that haven't had a comment since TB 2.0 release! (2007-04-07 to be exact)
- So far bugday has touched over 4,700 bugs, of which over 1,600 resolutions changed, accounting for one third of all (non-FIXED) resolution changes since bugday started (4,800)
- Next bugdays
- Will be whacking at the corresponding NEW bugs (excl. enhancements). Queries are at the bugday wiki pages.
- One last bugday this year -- Christmas and New Year both happen to fall on a Thursday, so no bugday after 12/18 until 1/8/2009.
- Crashes
- TB2 topcrashes (besides ntdll.dll) - all related to large messages or messages with attachments / interrupting message display?
- bug 373895 Crash when moving from partly displayed large IMAP message to another IMAP folder [@ nsImapProtocol::SetupWithUrl] (doesn't exist on trunk afaict)
- bug 403272 crash typically retrieving attachments/images [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenInputStream]
- bug 364007 Crash when navigating through new mail with key 'N' [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenOutputStream]
- TB3 topcrash
- TB2 topcrashes (besides ntdll.dll) - all related to large messages or messages with attachments / interrupting message display?
Roundtable
- Standard8 would like to propose we add an "Account Manager" component under the "MailNews Core" product - the code is shared, and I don't see it needing to be split. Would probably make bug management easier.
Status Updates
davida
dmose
- this past week
- partial week due to vacation/sick day
- met with Ubuntu folks re Thunderbird collaboration
- SF office-space related prep work
- various code, strategy & architectural discussions
- upcoming week
- on vacation Monday 12/22 through Friday 12/26
- goals (by friday, 12/19)
- land JS-in-mailnews patches
- make significant gloda review progress
- catch up on momo board meeting stuff
- progress on review backlog
nth10sd
- Getting back up to speed with bugmail and such.
- One last 2008 bugday hurrah this Thursday.
- Jumping into the TB mozmill wagon.
- Mozmill patch in bug 459719.
- JS fun from the past weeks:
- Patch for bug 452329
- Discovered bug 466585, bug 467495, bug 469254, bug 469405, bug 469625
jcranmer
Standard8
Two week goals (End of week 2):
- Move to toolkit password manager (in progress)
- Made the decision to not migrate the password manager list to reflect up to date passwords - too many issues, not good enough solutions at the moment. Probably revisit post TB 3. This makes the task easier.
- Submitted patch and tests for SMTP protocol handlers bug 469807
- Required so that toolkit password manager can use IOService.newURI.
- LDAP already submitted bug 419595
- Now looking at POP/IMAP/News handlers.
- Move Leak and Bloat tests to be controlled by MozMill
- Made some good progress, now have a basic script and a good idea of how to refine it for the mozmill in leak & bloat.
- tracked down a number of mozmill/jsbridge/mozrunner integration issues.
- Currently blocked by the mentioned mozmill issues - mainly that when using mozrunner/jsbridge the APIs are limited such that we can't actually choose to run Thunderbird.
- MozMill team is working on improving APIs, hoping to get an updated version this week.
- Write down extended roadmap overview for the address book (based on discussion during MoMo work week).
- Started this, need to arrange meeting to discuss.
Other work:
- Reviews
- Unit tests
- Added some debugging to try and work out why we get an intermittent failure removing files 462269 bug Bug 462269 (need to follow that up).
- Build Config
- bug 469392 Let MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH define work in c++ code.
- bug 469396 Don't re-read version.txt when we don't need to in our own tree.
- bug 469655 Drop intermediate makefiles in mail/themes
- bug 469835 Wrote patch for having different version numbers on comm-central + mozilla-central builds (versus comm-central + mozilla-1.9.1 builds)
- Misc
- bug 469090 Edit vcard in Account Manager broken.
- bug 469797 Hopefully fix nsUserInfoUnix so that displaying the User's name in the account wizard will work correctly for non-ascii names.
- Finished bug 462147 - allow TB to migrate SeaMonkey 2.x profiles.
Two week goals (Start of week 1):
- Complete Password Manager migration
- Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill
- Lead Address Book discussions
- Investigate fixing LDAP Issues with threads and shutdown.
- Look at Performance tests
- Get some rough ideas of what & how.
- See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
- This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.
asuth
bienvenu
- Reviews and driving
- Took Friday off
- Worked on fixing the open db bloat
- Beta 1 Post Mortem scheduled for Thursday, 9:30AM PST
Two week goals (week 2):
- Turn autoconfig branch into a reviewable patch for trunk
- Brought auto config repo up to date with trunk changes. Deferring rest of work until I've finished the folder archiving work
- Finish folder compaction changes and unit tests.
- Code written; need to test
- Reduce review queue backlog
- Making progress on review queue
Two week goals (week 1)
- Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995
emre
gozer
- Build
- Buildbot
- Great cleaning up starting this week
- Signinig
- Initial conversation with John
- Our process will have to be different
- Bouncer
- We should get our own, keep the existing mirror network
- How many downloads for Thunderbird 3 Final ?
- Buildbot
- Web
- SpreadThunderbird moving along
- Drupal Security patches
- Google Analytics
- www.mozillamessaging.com Done
- spreadthunderbird.com Staging
- Cleaned up Webalizer for some Beta 1 Graphs (Blogged)
- SpreadThunderbird moving along
- Infrastructure
- Qualys security audit was a nice surprise
- Working on getting us more hardware
- More/Better monitoring/trending
clarkbw
- Driving and Bug Reviews
- exptoolbar toolbar changes, not ready for push yet
- Blog about better searching for mail, due out this week
- Two Week Goals (end of week 2):
- Push new iteration of Conversation List into exptoolbar
- Already pushed last week
- Review Conversation Reader and continue to iterate on
- Latest changes already pushed into reader
- Push new iteration of Conversation List into exptoolbar
wsmwk
- Possible suggested new Component for new bugs?
beckley
Penelope
KaiRo
- My "pretty package name" fixup for directory names inside packages made 1.9.1 now (bug 453840)
rkent
rebron
- Press round-up for Thunderbird 3 Beta 1. Press was positive.
- Web site is wrapping up design phase for hand-off to silver orange. current files See files dated December 11.
- Google Analytics on MozillaMessaging.com will be getting it on SpreadThunderbird.com as well.
- Workaround fix for What's New page.
Two week goals (week 2):
- Support documentation, audit (see what we have on .org and .com) and plan for what we need for beta 2 and final release.
- Web site production hand-off to silver orange and global teams.
- Update SpreadThunderbird with analytics module, events module and printed materials.
sipaq
mkmelin
Attendees
dmose, nth10sd, wsmwk, gozer, rebron, standard8, clarkbw, kairo, bienvenu, emre