Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-11-18
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
- Tuesday, Nov 18, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda
- Who's taking minutes? --> gozer
- Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.
Calls For Help
- davida would appreciate assistance on the autoconfiguration branch. (The awesome create-a-new-account screen where you just enter your e-mail address and it figures out most/all of the details for you.) One particular area that could use assistance is handling certificates in the connection detection logic.
- bienvenu has done some work in bug 429843 on sorting out the certificate handling for incoming email.
- bienvenu says : cert exception dialog likely to land for beta 1 with no string changes (existing strings are in nss)
- dmose says: I need to make a separate pref for each different reading contexts. Document it and make a patch for it. Should be ready for review by thursday.
- bienvenu has done some work in bug 429843 on sorting out the certificate handling for incoming email.
Action Items
New
- need to announce new code freeze date on tinderbox
Open
- dmose: drive JS-in-mail discussion
- davida: will escalate issue of separate messaging crash-stats server
- Crash-stats is looking reasonable at the moment. Do we still want to do this?
- We would like our own server, but it's not as urgent as it was.
- davida: needs to identify the major work items for thunderbird 3 and break them down by the beta/release they will be in.
- hoping to do as a group this week.
- Gloda needs to be more documented in order to make the feature more visible to the users (asuth)
- From the Alpha 3 post-mortem (individuals should take your own items and go through them):
- wsmwk: Need to define what tests (e.g. smoketests/basic functional/unit tests etc) should go where and where they are filed.
- tb-drivers: Go through current MailNews/TB relnote bugs and work out what is really necessary - low priority.
Closed
- standard8: Generate some mozmill example scripts, and encourage others to use mozmill and file bugs to help improve it.
- jminta has written some of these and they are in standard8's review queue.
- jminta got nice code coverage results with mozmill
- gozer: ask for 100% sampling of Thunderbird on existing crash-test server (bug 463277)
Thunderbird 3 Beta 1
- bienvenu is release driver
- gozer is build engineer
- String freeze date: 2008-11-13
- Code Freeze date: was 2008-11-18 now TBD
- Blockers/Wanted
- TB 3.0b1 - blocking: 12
- TB 3.0b1 - wanted: 43
- Proposed Blocking
- Fixed:
- TB 3.0b1 - blocking: 38
- TB 3.0b1 - wanted: 20
- 3.0b1 testday 1 went well, decent participation (5-10). Identified several bugs
- davida/brian want the exptoolbar in enough of a good shape so it could be promoted to the beta 1 users (start page suggested add-on)
- Beta 1 is number 1 priority at this time, in case anybody wasn't sure.
Thunderbird 3
- Draft Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
- DevRoadmap is updated. What left to do on Calendar is not clear.
- Overall progress is very good.
- folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev
QA Updates
- bug 464247 - w32 build symbols missing since 2008-10-30 - impedes identifying top crashers on trunk
- Mozmill
- Adding mozmill tests to our unittest builds sounds like a good idea
- MozMill + TB integration itself seems quite simple
- How do we run these tests ?
- One at a time ?
- In batches ?
- With what profile ?
- We need a framework for the tests to be able to specify what they need
- Standard8 will file more bugs and will likely try and land what he already has
- Gary suggests that we figure out a path to converting Litmus tests to MozMill
- Gary suggested using special tests days to push this forward.
Roundtable
Status Updates
davida
dmose
nth10sd
- Usual bug triage, wading in Bugzilla, weeding out candidates for resolution.
- Resuscitating a python script to post-process Bugzilla search .csv files, not quite ready yet.
- Mail-land
- Finished (unbitrotting) patches for bug 223943, bug 331387.
- In-progress patch: bug 461317.
- JS-land
- Attempted JS fun in bug 418051, bug 443071.
- JS bugs bumped into: bug 465063, bug 465145, bug 465261.
jcranmer
Standard8
- Reviews
- MoMo work week
- Helping out with Growl integration bugs and other blocking bugs.
- Address Book:
- bug 435027 Contact not removed from search results display after contact is deleted
- bug 462364 Deleting a List from Address Book does not get reflected immediately. r/sr=bienvenu
- bug 58769 Don't collect addresses into CAB that occur in other AB's. r=bienvenu, sr=Neil.
asuth
bienvenu
- Reviews and Driving
- Mountain View work week - lots of useful meetings
- Made progress on hooking into new cert exception dialogs - pop3 and imap hooked up; working on smtp - bug 429843
- Landed js folder pane bug 414038
- Fixed bug 392330, view picker not updated when we switch tabs, and issues with account central page in tabs
- Fixed crash in threaded quick search, bug 464802
- Fixed bug 456291, make sure IMAP autosync doesn't cause password prompt
- Fixed bug 457751, delete imap message, rebuild index, do undo can crash
emre
- Attended meetings in MV
- Mainly worked on blockers:
- bug 456291: Fixed
- bug 385502: Fixed
- bug 445117: Fixed
- bug 383489: Fixed
- bug 464784: Work in progress
- Got together with sdwilsh to discuss activity manager interface. Very important input.
gozer
- Mountain View work week - lots of useful meetings
- Build
- Still trying to track down OS X intermittent bloat failures bug 463594
- Web
- www.spreadthunderbird.com is live (99 active users)
- Need analytics solution soon
clarkbw
- Work week in Mt. View
- Updated conversation view prototypes
- Working on conversation reader prototype
- Caught up on ui-reviews
- Filed bug 464621 and bug 465251 for add-ons manager improvements
wsmwk
- tracking Socorro and Breakpad bugs
- attempting to identify topcrashers
- special attention to QA gloda
- ran beta 1 testday
- ran bugday
beckley
- Dale and I were in Mountain View for the end of last week. Thanks to the MoMo guys for being great hosts and letting us hang out.
Penelope
- Working on integrating with Tb 3.0 beta 1 source code for next Eudora 8/Penelope beta release
- bug 463720 - Prefs for opening mailboxes/messages in tabs
- bug 463748 - Can not open mailboxes in folder views other than "All Folders"
- bug 445383 - In </penelope/*>, "use a xul <stringbundle/> instead of including the strres.js code"
KaiRo
- Mostly SeaMonkey work, see my blog for details on that.
- Some more buildsystem sync work, see bug 464920
- Filed bug 464707 for the upload build target on comm-central (helpwanted)
- Filed the themes test static build failure (also seen with Thunderbird) as bug 464687 while investigating SeaMonkey static builds
- Added build target for creating source packages, see bug 456373 (general work, Firefox) and bug 464446 (comm-central app support)
- Started work on locale Makefile restructuring (bug 464921)
rkent
rebron
- SpreadThunderbird launched last week. Special thanks to gozer, paul booker, graphicsguru, ken. Working on the next phase: improvements to affiliate program, marketing assets, and event calendar.
- At MashUp camp, yesterday and today. Checking out web service apis and getting lobbied to use some in Thunderbird.
- Out Nov 19 - 27 for vacation.
sipaq
mkmelin
Attendees
gozer, davida, bienvenu, nth10sd (Gary), dmose, standard8, KaiRo