Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-08-26
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
- Tuesday, Aug 26, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda
- Who's taking minutes? dmose
Action Items
Open
- davida: file a bug on getting an announcements feed going on
- davida: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com
- everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release, put [delight] in status whiteboard
- dmose: will send out email scheduling drivers meeting for 9:30 Thursday
Closed
- dmose: clarifying post about how TB 3.0 roadmap should work w.r.t feature freeze, string freeze, etc.
- Will blog about dates talked about
Thunderbird:Shredder a2
- Post Mortem needs scheduling
- who needs to be there? davida, wswmk, nthomas, gozer, standard8, emre, dmose, ____?
- nthomas unavailability unknown
- davida to send out email, hopefully this week
Thunderbird 3
- lots of triage has happened; not yet completed
- some question about use of Target-Milestone field
- action item(dmose): email drivers to schedule meeting this week
Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1
- Two weeks to planned code freeze (9th September)
- One week to planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (2nd September)
- Blockers/Wanted:
- blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+: 21
- TB 3.0b1 - blocking: 14
- Note: spread across two lists, some dups, not all of these are hard-blockers.
- TB 3.0b1 - wanted: 16
- Proposed Blockers: 1
- bug 451842 filter rules changing from AND to OR, causing many false matches
- Needs QA
- bug 451842 filter rules changing from AND to OR, causing many false matches
- Fixed:
- wsmwk is the Q&A lead of Beta 1
- Standard8 is the release driver
Main Issues
- davida pointed out that pace seems slow
- what happens if we don't get enough wanted bugs?
- go forward as planned
- insert milestone (and rename?)
- bug owners requested to
- update status whiteboard of blocking & wanted bugs
- focus on bugs with string changes
- drivers to discuss further thursday
- what happens if we don't get enough wanted bugs?
- 3 blockers with no owner:
- bug 429118 Thunderbird inline spell check broken
- bug 430762 Start page for Alpha/Beta builds - is this a dup?
- davida & Standard8 to discuss post meeting
- bug 451257 Using "Edit as new" for random messages sometimes crashes Thunderbird [@ pixman_malloc_abc]
- hopefully crash-stats return in the next week or two will give us insight here
- L10N builds at risk:
- mozilla-central currently has no automated L10N builds
- Uncertain as to current capability to do L10N builds for Thunderbird
- No instructions for L10N builds from comm-central
- no L10N dashboard (i.e. compare locales)
- if the infrastructure doesn't come together, should skip string freeze and possibly l10n builds for this milestone rather than slipping
- davida/kairo will keep an eye on l10n discussion in Fx product meeting
- String Freeze - Are we on course to get string changes in for next week?
- Account Configuration bug 422814
- At the very least, cert-auth is at risk
- Password Manager bug 239131
- May not make it, although FF password manager should already be localised for most folks, the preference pane changes are still outstanding.
- Gloda bug 450494
- davida: relatively few strings, need to be concerned about UI for upgrading
- Inline card dialog bug 450724
- Standard8: on track
- Improved Message Reader View bug 449691
- dmose: mostly on track, some risk, looks to be easy to split and land partially
- Account Configuration bug 422814
QA Updates
- huge nose dive in unconfirmed last week - so trend of good results from bugday and other efforts continues
- Offline/online bug triage net results - two weeks ago started with 39 bugs with no comment since 2007-08-01, now down to 17 bugs. (in fact only 17 have no comments before 2008-05-30) So, a qualified success - but would be great if more people were comfortable working on them :)
- this week's bugday focus will be, at least in part, bugs with patches that need love (defined as last bug comment older than 200 days ago)
- last bug comment less than 800 days ago 127 bugs
- all bugs 241 bugs
- all patches that require string changes 53 bugs
- discussion about gerv's ongoing work here and how we should try and win (even in the short term in
Gmail Configuration: POP and IMAP
From Jcarroll 09:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC):
See proposed agenda items in the discussion page.
- davida likes the idea of IMAP
- need to consider UI implications of Googles tag/folder mapping and what deletion means (viz deletion from saved searches?)
- part of the autoconfig stuff davida is working on
Roundtable
Status Updates
davida
- driving
- autoconfig work w/ bienvenu & benb
dmose
- held full text indexing meeting
- discussions with mconnor and davida on flags & driving strategies rejiggered the process and updated <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Release_Driving>
- updated Tb3 schedule page on wiki
- updated Tb about:crashes patch (bug 431439)
- new message view work
- reviewed account wizard extensibility patch (bug 433801)
- made a review pass through nsLDAPURL reimplemation patch (bug 419595; needed for pwmgr)
nth10sd
- Another round of preparatory closemes, now ~250+ TB bugs waiting to be closed in a few weeks.
- ~1,000 unconfirmed bugs will be closed since bugdays were started 5 months ago.
- (Really) Finally repaired bugday queries.
- Gristmill now works for Thunderbird / Sunbird! (thanks mschroeder)
- Demonstration screencast, "Gristmill in Action" (for Fx though) created.
- Available at The Rumbling Edge.
jcranmer
- Some more address book rewrite stuff
- Started on an SQL backend, see [1]
Standard8
- Driving & Reviews
- Address Book
- bug 451361 Allow OS X address book selection in junk white list.
- Autocomplete
- bug 438861 Revised fix for passing results back to a previous search and committed
- Password Manager
- bug 419595 Fixes to LDAP implementation, needs updated patch.
- Unit Tests
- bug 450884 Enabled (most) TUnit tests in an effort to improve tinderbox stability (see bug for details).
- Stability seems to have improved, but still evaluating.
- bug 450884 Enabled (most) TUnit tests in an effort to improve tinderbox stability (see bug for details).
asuth
(I will not be on the call today.)
- gloda landing bug 450494
- my status
- have updated gloda mercurial repo to be able to "drop it in" by checking it out into mailnews/db/global. This allows a dual-existence for the time being. (Of course, a patch is required to get make to walk down into gloda's directory. Forgot to publish that, will do that.)
- unit tests writing in progress, will be back in the office on that Tuesday eve. Hope to push a first batch of working tests out soon. They will depend on some helpers I have as a patch against the mailnews core.
- have bolstered the in-code javadoc-style (some epydoc-style) comments.
- what I would like
- If the potential reviewers (I am thinking bienvenu and Standard8?) could start to look at the repository, probably starting from modules/gloda.js, that would be great.
- Standard8 probably won't have time; dmose volunteered
- we should probably plan on tele-con walkthroughs after some initial familiarization/review has occurred. I had done one with dmose and bienvenu back when dmose was up in Vancouver, and that went pretty well. A lot has happened since then, though, so bienvenu might still want in on such a walkthrough. We should probably do this after I get at least the first batch of unit tests out.
- If the potential reviewers (I am thinking bienvenu and Standard8?) could start to look at the repository, probably starting from modules/gloda.js, that would be great.
- my status
- other
- I helped justdave with a MIME-related bug and even wrote a unit test! (waiting on netwerk review for the fix, though.)
bienvenu
- Continued work on easy autoconfig - testing logon verification and port probing.
- Wrote patch for bug 440366 all keywords/tags of a mail will be deleted if attachment is detached, awaiting review
- Investigating bug 450649 pop3 partial download broken for global inbox
- Continued work on saved search grouping+threading
- Code reviews, 3.0b1 and 3.0 bug triage
emre
- Still working on bug 440793, bug 439097, bug 436615. A feature complete patch has been submitted. Going to work on it next couple days to make the strategy object scriptable.
gozer
- We've now got the basic infrastructure in place to run our own http:// sites
- Capable of sustaining the 8,000,000 hits a day we've been hearing about
- Sample Staging website for instance
- Support for https:// needs a little bit more work
- Landed bug bug 450456 - TB now has a disk cache!
- Learned of the web component part of the Autoconfiguration work from BenB
- validates that *.live.mozillamessaging.com is the right DNS structure for all things needed by Thunderbird itself
- brought up interesting issues of trust and SSL certificates
- larger discussion needed; davida will blog about once this is a bit further along
- I'd like to get the general feel about including our own CA in Thunderbird's trusted CA list.
- Decided it's simpler to host the Lightning/gdata buildbots ourselves, instead of trying to reuse the current community boxes
- Should happen this week
- Brought our test Zimbra install in sync with what's at MoCo to help Calendar folks with debugging problems bug 450534
- Will be somewhat on/off this week for family reasons
clarkbw
- Worked on...
- bug 430614 — Thunderbird OS Search Integration
- bug 451599 — preferences UI for disk cache
- bug 451620 — remove connection timeout
- bug 436615 — better faster IMAP
- Continuing on...
- msg reader
- Quick discussion w/ beltzner and dmose about creating greater distinction between headers, toolbar area, and message content
- New version incorporating some feedback msg reader v2 and msg-reader v2 remote images
- bug 422814 — new create account dialog
- bug 123440 — annoying connection error dialogs
- msg reader
- A bit of blogging
- A lot of bug triage
- Planning to spend some time on
- bug 231654 — Key combos wrt folder pane
- bug 271589 — popups accumulate if they are not canceled
wsmwk
- weighed in start page, and on some UI issues
- numerous bug triage, with some focus on profile and startup bugs
- monitoring m.feedback.thunderbird and m.f.prerelease.thunderbird
- pushed on bug 258465 Duplicate entries appear in feeds [RSS] and about speech accessibility bug 395631 Using Vista's speech recognition application it is not possible to dictate into Thunderbird's message compose window, which dupes to bug 395484
- trying to keep up with bugmail from Bryan's flurry of responses :)
beckley
KaiRo
rkent
rebron
- Continuing work on PR plan.
- Working on promotional materials to have on hand, giveaways, conferences.
- Working on updating the web site.