SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-06-23

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

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OPEN

  • bug 1150082 SeaMonkey Donation Page is using the PayPal all or nothing version, instead of the usual either/or one. Mcsmurf is investigating.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Currently two option patches awaiting for Callek's decision. Once settled, ewong will follow up with RelEng patches based on that decision.

CLOSED

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Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • Ratty has put up some win32 contributed builds on http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don't have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [23th June 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see Release Train section).
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.


Release Train

SeaMonkey 2.35 Release

  • We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 by the end of June.
    • For windows builds, we have a loaner win machine from Mozilla for us (i.e. ewong) to do manual window builds.
      • [ewong:] doing the buildbot steps manually on a Windows machine is proving to be a bit more involved as there are bits missing(these bits are normally created within the buildmaster so manually creating these bits is slow going) and it doesn't help that I've been swamped elsewhere.

TODO:

  • Patches to uplift to comm-release: status-seamonkey2.35: affected
  • Create a relbranch on mozilla-release. Uplift the following patches:
    • bug 1151345 [OSX Widget] Firefox app menu contains only "Quit" on Firefox 38 beta ("About Firefox" and all other items are missing)
    • bug 1165732 Firefox running very slow on Windows starting with version 38 due to hardware acceleration
    • bug 1169996 Changing the spell check language in the message subject of a recycled message via right-click changes the composition language preference.
    • Need to check that the following bug 1166924 bug 1167356 bug 1171540 bug 1172397 bug 1172076 are fixed on what ever branch we use.
  • Alternatively use the existing THUNDERBIRD_38_VERBRANCH on mozilla-esr38.
  • [Ratty] Are we basing our 2.35 release on mozilla-38.0.x or mozilla-38.1.x? Notes that mozilla-release is now at FIREFOX_39_0_BUILD3.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Lightning (other extensions with binary XPCOM components) was broken on trunk due to bug 1159737, fixed (at least for now) in bug 1165428 introducing MOZ_BINARY_EXTENSIONS build-time switch, enabled in bug 1166842.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld together with other community members have been updating the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter.
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at https://dataviz.mozilla.org Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.
    • Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on seamonkey-projects.org or https://dev.seamonkey.at
    • bug 1133728 Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.
    • Links are broken again. Dataviz views now needs a SSO login. We need to find out how to expose a limited view for public consumption.
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.33

open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (20)

2.35

  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Current 38.0-branch releases are subject to Logjam weak-encryption downgrade attack [3] due to security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha and security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha being enabled by default
      • bug 1138554 fixed in NSS 3.19.1, uplifted to branches for 39.0+ with bug 1166031, and verified fixed for SM 2.36
      • Can 2.35 ship with NSS 3.19.1? [4]
        • bug 1172917 filed to explore the options, possibly building this version from mozilla-esr38 instead of mozilla-release.
  • one week left to get a 2.35 release done, merge scheduled for next week

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 - SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
      • SeaMonkey won't be allowed to use the Firefox Sync 1.5 servers. Ewong has set up a FxA 1.5 server and is looking into hosting our own FxAccounts server on a community machine or VPS.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • Removal of SSL 3.0 support after POODLE Attack with 2.36, see bug 1106470.
      • bug 1137991 has removed SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
      • bug 1149581 covers removal of the related strings
      • Firefox will likely proceed with the removal in 39.0 given that Chrome goes the same way [5]
    • We've picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [6]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 16 new, 3 fixed, 14 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort, lower than average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec's current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags: 43 review 5 super-review 5 ui-review 10 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Callek

ewong

  • Fixed:
    • bug 1099585 - Make JS callers of ios.newChannel call ios.newChannel2 in suite/
  • Working on:
    • manually creating builds on the loaner.

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 1163442 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and PP_TARGETS for SeaMonkey themes
    • bug 1168525 Port |bug 1166538 - Use mozbuild.jar-based zip tool instead of $(ZIP) for simple cases| to Calendar
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Misak

Mnyromyr

Neil

I didn't get much done over the last fortnight because I was too busy with work and other stuff. Hopefully I can catch up over the next couple of months. Still needs uplift(s):

  • bug 1170002 Display name with comma does not get properly quoted in From field.
  • bug 1165316 Replace Livemark callback function usage.

Still hoping for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Px

Rainer Bielefeld

Ratty

WONTFIX:

  • bug 1176055 Re-implement keyword.URL (search from the locationbar) unsync it from the default search engine.

Waiting on check-in on CLOSED TREE:

  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.
  • bug 1158496 JavaScript error: .../nsSuiteGlue.js, line 291: NS_NOINTERFACE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004002 (NS_NOINTERFACE) [nsIWebProgress.DOMWindow].

Needs uplift to comm-aurora:

  • bug 1163395 Port bug 967494 to SeaMonkey (Preference Composition/Spelling/Language is ignored, and changing spellcheck language in one composition window affects all open and new compositions).

Working on:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1153577 Users should be able to hide the menubar and show it with the ALT key.
  • bug 1174601 Copy nsDragAndDrop.js from toolkit to SeaMonkey because it will be removed in bug 1162050.

TODO:

  • bug 1176602 In message compose make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird Bug 1175908).
  • Packaging updates.
  • Safe Browsing updates.
  • According to John-Galt the reason we have a blank space in the discovery pane of the addons manager is that our carousel is empty. So we can fill it with links to the addon converter etc (we may need admin access). Need to ask Mossop who in Firefox land is responsible for updating their Carousel and what the procedure is.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Still waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1141324 Upgrade the SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences to refer to TLS {instead,too}.

Still waiting for ui-review or review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.
  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)

Still waiting for feedback:

  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions. (prefpane part)

Filed:

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Waiting for dependencies:

  • bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.
    • to be reviewed once bug 1137991 has hit the releases (timing depends on the Firefox/Core side but seems to become effective as planned with 39.0).

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

sgautherie

stefanh

tonymec

Any other business?

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