QA/StaffMeetings/QA-Staff-11-28-2012
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lNovember 28, 2012
Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=nL4PESn1IaVh
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QA Org Items
New Hires & Interviews
Please join Web QA in welcoming Bob Silverberg to our team!
http://www.silverwareconsulting.com/
Web QA is still looking for its intern
Upcoming Events/Conferences
January 31st - Mobile + Web Devcon - John Hammink on Panel Discussion...
Dec 5 : SF Office: Mobile Monday Holiday Mixer with Mozilla – Opening Up the Web on Mobile - http://www.mobilemonday.us/events/84733542/?eventId=84733542&action=detail
Notices
Travel / PTO
marcia PTO 11/30 and 12/5-12/7
Matt W PTO 12/7
Softvision is off on Friday, November 30
QA Team Updates Desktop (Juan)
Firefox
Fx17.0.1 (and ESR) on-going chemspill testing. All hands on deck. Please help.
I think we are all good -- special thanks to juanb, retornam, bsilverberg, mwobensmith, tracy, stephend, marcia, krupa for the help
Primary drivers for chemspill (in aggregate):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806192
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815042
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815743
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814101
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=813264
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814554
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816197
Fx18b2 expected to be out by end of the week.
ESR (ashughes)
17.0.1esr coming (see above)
Stability (marcia)
Platform Stability Notes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-11-27#Stability_Report_.5BWeekly.5D
Feedback from Engineering that they would like the weekly stability report to change a bit. This will be discussed at the CrashKill meeting next Monday at 10 AM Pacific.
Automation (ashughes)
I am working with dev to identify Social API automation test candidates
Mihaela (SV) is working with dev to identify PDF.js automation test candidates
Sync Client (Tracy)
no client trains recently
Community
Mobile (Tony)
Issues
Fennec:
fx17 launched, but are we chemspilling 17.0.1? (kevin lead) desktop only
investigating initial wave of ARMv6 feedback
If product drops Armv6 spec, request top phones in market, and %
Fx18 planning work (aaron lead)
B2G:
contracters onboarded, executing testruns (11 now, 15 next week, 20 next 2 weeks)
testcase clean up part 1 happening. http://bit.ly/V5a1GF
If you would like to help, see jhammink
cutting down on regressions - any bugs being found now that has "regressed", use the "regression" keyword. I'm pushing for a 24-hr turn around time.
If you need an unagi device, see Tony
Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
Stability (nhirata)
Things calmed down after the merge and fixes that occurred afterwards. For graph see platform notes
Product Announcements (tracy)
Dev admin page is avalable but staging servers won't be ready 'til tomorrow (Thursday). rnewman provided a testing extension to change a few hard coded prefs to make testing possible.
Once servers are ready, I'll begin testing this feature end to end as I have access to the CAP (campaign admin page) to send messages at will.
B2G (Geo/jhammink)
Stability (nhirata)
still need some things fixed for Stability: ADU etc. see bug 761905 for remaining work to be done
Doc on how to connect Unagi using B2G created
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/Bugzilla has been revised
UXBranch ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gaia/UX_Branch ) is now underway, QAing happening separately by bug fixes and being pushed in.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?type0-1-0=notsubstring;field0-1-0=status_whiteboard;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard;query_format=advanced;value0-1-0=qa-verified;type0-0-0=substring;value0-0-0=landed%20in%20uxbranch;product=Boot2Gecko;list_id=5070502
Performance bugs : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AohBFXQ042pYdEY4MjQ2ZWJyN093Ny14NHlZaXFSRXc#gid=0
Working with SUMO on feedback bugs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al_zNwSJwvZfdDh4Qkdua2JfR2NTbUFjeExFUTZXWVE#gid=0
New Usecases report - https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s155c3qm6rk0l7/b2g_untested_usecases_report.pdf
NH: This report is great. Having said that, the reason why some of these are blank is because there were some unanswered comments, and looking at the status they are still unanswered. These use case doesn't satisfy what's in the spec nor what is implemented. Trying to get buy in from the PMs about this, however I am not having any luck.
Triaging existing mochitests for inclusion on TBPL. Have found a number of layout tests we can include, a few tests from other areas.
Working on a semi-automated way to do this test triage, as manual triage is very slow.
Permissions testing coming together, nearing completion on all three suites as defined at https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/QA/API_Permissions_Test_Plan
Working with A-Team and B2G dev to get permissions handling for functional tests centralized in the framework so we don't get overly derailed by dependency breakage.
Moztrap Testcases - currently QAnalyst are running testruns against the device and logging review data. We'll have a pass at fixing these testcases - per review - during this and next week.
Apps (Jason)
Preloaded apps ramp-up and coordination with Karen
More exploratory testing of the apps flows on device
Helping with reviews for apps gaia ui test automation
Pancake (nhirata)
Pancake on hiatus
Community Members Onboarding
Services (jrgm)
Sync Server (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Sync/
BrowserID (jrgm) - https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/BrowserID
deploying train-2012.11.09 today
need to get synced up with jsmith on b2g work
Web (Stephen)
Q1 2013 "Team Event" has been approved (San Francisco, January 14th-18th); straw-man schedule up here: http://lanyrd.com/2013/mozilla-web-qa-q1-work-week/
Affiliates
No updates
B2G/Gaia testing:
Lots of work on stability/reliability in the last week, testing team can start looking at results and having confidence in them
23 passing tests (including unit tests -- 14 without)
...out of 35
Spreading into tests that send SMS and make calls - useful stuff for the team to have and getting closer to using the device in a 'real' scenario. (it's fun too!)
Adding in about 1/2 dozen more tests every week but that will increase now we have good infrastructure and more contributors coming on board.
tracking remaining Marionette or infra issues here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801898
Bouncer
Successful release on 2012-11-28
Sentry/Bouncer location availability improvements and reporting - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804347
Firefox Marketplace
http://cl.ly/3H0B0k1w0x2E is going live 11/29
Mozilla.com
http://scrumbu.gs/p/mozilla_org/
Mozillians
No updates
MDN
http://scrumbu.gs/t/mdn/2012-12-04/
Socorro
Milestone 28 slated to be released today
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=28;product=Socorro;list_id=5071991
Community Members Onboarding
none this week
Community (Marcia)
Goals
We have completed both goals that we targeted for q4: https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42012_QAgoals
Need to start thinking about overall goals for next quarter and next year
As of yet there is no information about when and where MozCamps will happen in 2013
Projects
Ioana was working a blog post regarding the status of One and Done. When pragmatic gets back into town we will be meeting again to figure out next steps.
Notes from Community Building Meetup:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Meetup/Singapore_Nov_2012
There is talk of perhaps having a dedicated Community meetup, but some people in the mailing list feel this would exclude non FTE
Upcoming Events
David Boswell is hosting a Community Building Workshop this Thursday at 10 AM Pacific:
Video: David Boswell’s vidyo room (Non-LDAP access: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=LagZYeSPnhIA)
Audio: 1-800-707-2533, pin: 369, conf: 9634#
Room: Get to do Choppa in Mountain View 3rd floor and SFO 7E in SF
Back channel: irc.mozilla.org#mozillians
Agenda: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Grow#Meetings
Testdays (ashughes)
There are no upcoming events at this time.
[juanb] Possibly a per-window private browsing test day next week, depending on stability of feature in develoment branch.
Video Work
No active work on videos going on at this time. There is still footage from MozCamp LATAM that needs to be edited.
QMO.next (Raymond)
Community Members Onboarding
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
Gaia UI (Dave)
To improve test stability, any open apps are now killed prior to each test
Setting/getting settings has been overhauled to be much more robust
WebAPI (Rob)
Emulator crash (bug 790463) caused by Telephony tests i now fixed
More tests for SMS, telephony, and the proximity sensor
WebRTC (Henrik)
Identified and reported all found memory leaks with crashtests and mochitests
Discussion about how to enable faked devices for automated tests ({{bug|815002}))
Working on first peer connection mochitests
Mozmill
New ESX cluster coming along (network configured - VMs need to be deployed soon)
MozTrap (Cameron)
1.2.7 run activation perf improvements
handling 7500 case runs just fine now
pushed to staging
scheduled to push to production
a few other fixes went in as well
1.3:
typing filter text perf fix
links on runs to enter new bugs
links to lists with filters
Community Members Onboarding
Basecamp Roundtable/Discussion Items
[item here]
Other Roundtable/Discussion Items
[jsmith] Automation culture across the QA Organization
Q4 Goals are still missing from some teams: https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q42012_QAgoals. If you are housing your goals on another page, please link to it.
[marcia] Have we hired any QA interns? [juanb] Do we have any allotment?
If not, what are we doing to source individuals for these roles?
[marcia] Does HR have any new strategies for sourcing individuals for other roles within QA? We haven't had many new hires in 2012
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