QA/StaffMeetings/QA-Staff-10-30-2013
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Wed October 30, 2013
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QA Org Items
QA Show and Tell
This week: Desktop QA (Marc S) - WebAudio API
Epic Citadel - http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/
Goo Labs http://labs.gooengine.com/ and http://www.gootechnologies.com/
Web Audio Blog Post : https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/10/29/listen-up-web-audio-api-now-in-firefox-completes-web-as-a-platform-for-gaming/
https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Show-and-Tell#Schedule
Next week: Services QA team - pdehaan: Node.js and Grunt!
New Hires & Interviews
Intern candidates for Mobile QA
Still working through Web QA intern candidates - closing in (week or two)
FxOS QA Engineer - https://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/position/oWoSXfwT
Services - 2 phone screens
Upcoming Events/Conferences
[jammink] NoBackend talk at QConSF, November 11
[nhirata/jsmith/jammink] System Front End Work Week 11/4 ~ 11/8
Notices:
[nhirata] Want to call out a thanks to SUMO contributor feer56 for b2g contributions in reporting bugs (based on geeksphone device)
Bugs reported : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=8384290&emailtype1=substring&email1=feer56%40live.com&emailreporter1=1&classification=Client%20Software&query_format=advanced&product=Firefox%20OS
Note: there are other contributers that do help out in SUMO and I think it's a source that we may want to consider helping out with just as Firefox for Android does.
Travel / PTO
TRIBES training:
[juanb] SF October 29,30
[marcia] Tribes Training in SF: October 29-30
[kthiessen] Also at TRIBES SF, 29-30 Oct.
[retornam] Tribes Training in SF: October 29-30
[nhirata] November 13-14 Tribes
[jammink] December 10th-? Tribes
[mwobensmith] Flying on a plane 10/30, back in office 10/31
[ashughes] Upcoming PTO: Nov 16-30, 2013
[tchung] taipei : Nov 11-15
[Henrik] Nov 1, Nov 12-13, 15
[dclarke] Nov 1: Birthday PTO
QA Team Updates
Desktop (Juan Anthony)
Firefox
Firefox 25 released yesterday after multiple respins, currently throttled at 10%
Firefox 26b1 currently being tested, to be shipped tomorrow
Click-to-Play enabled by default, if you find an issue with a site/plugin or CTP UX please report it here -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apbc4eh5_A9wdDRQUmE4UHNKSFFJYkQ5Yzd4VmF6V0E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Windows Vista+ now uses WMF instead of DirectShow for MP3 playback
Session Restore has a new IID -- keep your eye out for regressions
Firefox 27.0a2 updates to be enabled on Friday
ESR (mwobensmith)
17.0.10esr shipped successfully
24.1.0esr shipped successfully
Issue regarding untranslated strings (bug #932310); we shipped anyway and will release-note it, reevaluate if it becomes a big issue
Stability (tracy)
Weekly stability team meeting notes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/2013-10-28
bitguard.dll malware remains one of our top issues
Automation (ashughes)
Security (mwobensmith)
Community
mwobensmith attended MozFest
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mozfestnotes-mwobensmith
Mobile (Tony)
Firefox for Android (Kevin/Aaron)
Testday for 26b1 new about:home
https://quality.mozilla.org/2013/10/firefox-for-android-beta-26-testday/
25 out the door
26 just about the door
Stability (kbrosnan)
Watching 25 and 26 crashes
B2G (Geo/jhammink)
[nhirata] Be sure to use 1.2 ; not aurora until further notice
newly merged branch: mozilla-b2g26
[jhammink] - Burirun3 in progress:
1216 passed, 77 failed, 1 blocked, 108 invalid / 4241 cases total. Coverage is at 36%
The Bugs so far:
http://mzl.la/1aw0r8P (new and reopened: 55)
http://mzl.la/1hohxdK (resolved fixed, verified fixed since testrun began: 3)
Stability (nhirata)
https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/2013-10-28#B2G
more testing/data is needed now that we have the switch over
need to make sure top crashes are assigned
[jsmith & jhammink] - Active SIM customization testing for 1.2 ongoing
[jsmith] - Exploratory testing recent 1.2 packaged app regressions
Systems FE Workweek in SF next week.
155 blocker bugs, currently
Community Members Onboarding
Services (Edwin)
Identity/Persona
Trains going out - fix for IE11
FxA
API Server - jbo
Content Server - pdehaan
B2G - edwong
The newest, newest, newest wiki - the WIKI TO END ALL WIKIS:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox-Accounts
Unofficial architecture from ops/qa perspective
https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/~gene@mozilla.com/Firefox+Accounts+Architecture
Add-ons Registration
First couple of meetings with Alexis. Test planning is in progress...
Talkilla
considering load testing
Community
2 onboarding
Web (Stephen)
B2G/Gaia testing:
Caught some issues around RIL and SIM handling last week and were able to give early warning to Manual QA team
Naoki and Stephen worked on device stability more betterer
1 new test: test_keyboard_predictive test. 2 more new tests in the pull queue, a few more in the queue being worked on by contributors
3 new contributors, kyr0, KaranS, qba73 (who's just getting started)
and hopefully soon "fsc" (need to get contact info from them)
Jgriffin developed a "fail-if" syntax for us to run all tests all the time, simplifies reporting a bit
Looks like we found a potential Wi-Fi optimization/edge-case:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=921620
v1.2 test branch still lagging behind a bit, but:
pull pending review to re-add 5 tests:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=931152
Bouncer
release going out the 11th:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=916181
Engagement Projects
Reps released new /Events features
Newsletter released Marketplace integration with Exact Target
Careers released new UI; looks great!
https://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/
Firefox Marketplace
Weekly release was shipped on 10/29
Mozilla.com
Shipped CTA (call to action) for Firefox OS availability in Uruguay + Peru - another country going live today
Mozillians
Mozillians pushed the weekly release
MDN
testday in the works (Etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/testday-mdn-2013, will schedule), to bring automation coverage up-to-speed with the new redesign (and cover additional functionality):
https://developer-dev.allizom.org/en-US/
Socorro
small release, 65, going out tomorrow at 2:30pm:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&target_milestone=65&product=Socorro&list_id=8395498
Community Members Onboarding
(See above under B2G)
Community (Marcia - Parul this week)
Projects
Badges: working with Emily Goligoski of Open Badges / Mozilla Foundation to enable the QA team to award the General QA Participation Badge to contributors.
Need to fill out this sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnUOR-0CBMsTdE1hWnJnYXlNdnktVUlhWWdjVzFVR0E&usp=sharing
Use an issuing service that makes it possible to create the digital badges and have contributors claim them. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHml-k4XnX7dHJQSDBrdUphYlprc1N0N09KMzFzckE&usp=sharing#gid=0 For example, http://badg.us/
The team at badges@mozillafoundation.org can handle our questions and help us get setup.
One and Done
Draft blog post calling for community participation circulated among the QA team members - any feedback?
Wiki for Version 1 Milestone 1 has been set up https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Taskboard/Version1-Milestone1
Past Events
Mozilla Festival
Bebe and Zac gave an interactive session on Firefox UI automated testing at MozFest, 7 participants who stayed until the end
Upcoming Events
Testdays (ashughes)
Firefox for Android testday this Friday -> https://quality.mozilla.org/2013/10/firefox-for-android-beta-26-testday/
Bob Silverberg is getting https://etherpad.mozilla.org/testday-mdn-2013 scheduled
Video Work
No update this week
QMO.next (Stephen/Craig Cook, this week)
Planet Mozilla policy update, re: incorporating feed(s) from QMO:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932150#c1
"QMO is already on Planet Projects (http://planet.mozilla.org/projects/). We don't add project-type blogs to normal planet anymore."
shipped the Akismet anti-spam plugin
Upgraded 2 others
preparing to test the Persona WordPress plugin on dev: http://quality-dev.allizom.org/
Community Members Onboarding
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
Projects
Mozmill-Tests
Big refactoring upcoming for application specific tests (patch ~1.7MB!!)
Mozmill
Mozmill 2.0.1 to come most likely early next week
Restart problem is fixed now by forcing Firefox to quit on restart
AddonManager of mozprofile is kinda broken and gets a couple of updates
Mozmill CI
Crashes on Windows 8.1 64bit have been fixed by spoofing the cpuid for the VM
As of today we run update tests for betatest and releasetest each in about 25min (245 tests) !!!
Dave hacked on a Mozmill CI configuration generator during MozFest
http://davehunt.github.io/mciconf/app/
Eideticker CI reporting results to people account
http://people.mozilla.org/~dhunt/eideticker-ci-dashboard/
MozTrap (Cameron)
Community Members Onboarding
Roundtable/Discussion Items
Moz QA branded sim holders for swag - mentioned today in qa-b2g email list
Example: http://www.amazon.com/SDcardholder-com-122910-Sdcardholder-Multi-Cardholder/dp/B004HK3KN8/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1383162431&sr=1-2
Ctalbert wants to meet with you, yes you. :-)
Nov. 20 staff meeting *canceled* (feel free to post read only updates to the etherpad, if you have the time). But, everyone strongly encouraged to go to the interview training meeting instead for that hour.
Proposal for stop-gap streamlining of emails into qa-contribute: make a "montage" for us along the lines of: http://www.joshmatthews.net/trainingmontage/ but much much simpler to direct incoming contributors to actionable things to do and mentors.
[jsmith] Announcing the new org changes - because I don't think anyone else knows about it
[jsmith] Rethinking QA Staff Meeting - More Roundtable, Less Status
One idea - 3 minutes per team for status (similar to what happens in the Platform Meeting), rest of time for roundtable
++++++++ (ctalbert) :-)
What's our meeting goal? What are the desired outcomes? [edwong]
Who is supposed to be writing down action items is that me (ctalbert), if so...we're in trouble.
Don't think anyone has the set responsibility. Marcia has often done it. We could rotate it around or get a volunteer at meeting beginning [geo]
I vote volunteer -- I'd certainly step up if asked/needed - stephend
I vote stephend
I vote stephend [anon]
I vote stephend but not that stephend
In the spirit of community, this should be a stephend group effort.
No, only stephend
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Today
Notes
Action Items
Clint to send out notice about cancelling the staff meeting on November 20th, in lieu of the interview-training session that day -- same time
Clint to setup one on one meetings with each member of QA
Each team to drive coming up with a list of the "perfect" contributor
send to qa-staff@mozilla.com
Put the roundtable at the top of the meeting's template
keep notices, show-n-tell, etc. (non-status updates) at the top
jsmith - Done
Last Meeting
Action Items
Template for this document is here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-staff-template
