Firefox/Channels/Meetings/2016-09-13
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- irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
- Past meeting notes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Channels/Meetings
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Contents
Attendees
- blassey, callek, erin, lmandel, calixie, liizzard, philipp, marco, lmandel, ryanvm, ritu, milan, davidb, jet, dveditz, hwine
Previous Actions
Schedule Update
- A new version of norton is breaking about half a million of our users
- Trusteer might be causing issues on XP as well - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1300545 (not clear if newer version is affected or not)
- 49 RC3 desktop build Monday (yesterday) Released today.
- 49 RC2 mobile build Monday.
Main driver is the slow script warning. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1284511#c54
- (Ryan) Bug 1299593 - Microsoft Dynamics CRM 2011 Lookup Error since Firefox Version 48.0.2 due to Array.prototype.values
- Should we block 49 on this? https://bugzil.la/1299593
IT head's up: IRCCloud (not IRC) outage from 1000-1300 PT On Saturday. If you expect to need IRC for coordination on 49, please make other plans or escalate to #moc (hwine) - https://whistlepig.mozilla.org/en-US/detail/782/
Add-ons
Stability
- [philipp] huge startup crash issue developing in the past couple of hours apparently caused by a signature update of symantec: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1302343 (nearly 300.000 submitted crash reports so far)
- primarily older versions of firefox release and esr seem to be affected & users reporting that updating firefox to the latest version can solve the startup crash
- maybe it would help if we could offer a sha-1 signed 48.0.2 build on the download-page to xp & vista users (instead of the 43.0.1 build which crashes instantly for affected users)
- sha1 builds are already present at https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/48.0.2/win32-sha1/
- also 45.3.0esr and 48.0.2 are affected: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/signature/?date=%3C2016-09-13T17%3A02%3A42&date=%3E%3D2016-09-06T17%3A02%3A42&product=Firefox&version=48.0.2&signature=nsSocketOutputStream%3A%3AWrite&_columns=date&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform&_columns=reason&_columns=address&_sort=-date&page=1#summary
- maybe norton is removing some needed file for Firefox, so when users update the files are restored? (or they modify a file that gets restored?)
- also 45.3.0esr and 48.0.2 are affected: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/signature/?date=%3C2016-09-13T17%3A02%3A42&date=%3E%3D2016-09-06T17%3A02%3A42&product=Firefox&version=48.0.2&signature=nsSocketOutputStream%3A%3AWrite&_columns=date&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform&_columns=reason&_columns=address&_sort=-date&page=1#summary
- sha1 builds are already present at https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/48.0.2/win32-sha1/
Aurora
Beta
overall crash rate: 1.10; browser: 0.96, content: 0.14
- [philipp] rc2 crash data generally looks good
- how are we going to deal with websense users & the 49 update? (crashes from bug 1294650 are still present in 49.0 builds)
- (liz) I was planning to leave users before 48, still not updating to 49.
- Intel crash: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1296630 Went away in the RC 1&2 builds. Will it be in RC3?
- all beta: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/search/?cpu_info=%5EGenuineIntel%20family%206%20model%2061%20stepping%204&signature=~je_free&signature=~sse2_blt&product=Firefox&version=49.0b&_sort=-date&_facets=signature&_columns=date&_columns=signature&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform_pretty_version&_columns=app_notes&_columns=graphics_critical_error#facet-signature
- RC builds: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/search/?cpu_info=%5EGenuineIntel%20family%206%20model%2061%20stepping%204&signature=~je_free&signature=~sse2_blt&product=Firefox&version=49.0b99&_sort=-date&_facets=signature&_columns=date&_columns=signature&_columns=product&_columns=version&_columns=build_id&_columns=platform_pretty_version&_columns=app_notes&_columns=graphics_critical_error#facet-signature
Release
overall crash rate: 0.88; browser: 0.77, content: 0.11
Nightly
[marcia]
- Some new crashes here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Uptime/NightlyCrashTriage/2016Q3#2016-09-13_-_marcia
Mobile
[marcia
- New nightly crash https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1302424
Performance (Thu)
Aurora / Dev Edition
Beta
Release
QE
Nightly
Aurora / Dev Edition
Beta
Action items
Mobile
Performance
RelEng
Marketing/Communications
User Advocacy
Roundtable
[elan]
- Enabling e10s multi in Nightly as of 52
probably got to Aurora and then stop there (?)
we need to create a plan of attack
Are we worried about stability?
worried about memory use and functional breakage
issues with service workers; we think they are edge casey
one of the other thing: user perception of stabiliy is a big deal
this first initial landing will be 2 content processes - until we eventually