Calendar:QA Chat:2006-01-18:Log
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[11:29] <ctalbert> We'll be starting the QA Chat in a few moments.... [11:34] <ctalbert> Ok. Let's get started with the QA Chat [11:35] <ctalbert> The last test day on the 16th was a great success. 18 bugs found, 208 testcases passed, 19 failed, 30 unclear. [11:37] <ctalbert> The winner from the test day was.......matthaeus123. He ran 115 of the litmus cases, which put him firmly in the lead. [11:37] <ctalbert> Second place would be thorn (aka omar_public) and third is Archaeopteryx [11:38] <ctalbert> Congratulations all around on that. It was a great effort by everyone involved. [11:38] =-= Fallen|away is now known as xFallenAngel [11:38] <ctalbert> January 30th will be a giant test day. We need to bring a lot of attention to ourselves for it. That's when the first pass of timezone code will land, when the iTIP code will land etc. [11:39] <ctalbert> I'll have to think about generating some buzz around that a little bit. [11:40] <ctalbert> In order to get ready for that, we need to take a hard look at the 30 unclear litmus tests and put some effort into some timezone test cases. If anyone's interested in volunteering to help with that, let me or Damian know. [11:40] -->| ulf_home (chatzilla@moz-6140EE76.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #calendar-qa [11:40] <ctalbert> Hi Ulf [11:40] <ulf_home> hi clint [11:42] <ctalbert> I was just mentioning that the January 30th test day will be a very important one. At that test day we should have the first pass of the timezone code, the iTIP code, and a few other high priority fixes. [11:42] <xFallenAngel> We could try to get an article up on heise.de. I would volunteer to write it, but I am not the best writer [11:43] <xFallenAngel> (I have to leave now though, I'll read the log on the wiki) [11:43] =-= xFallenAngel is now known as Fallen|away [11:43] <ctalbert> ok [11:43] <Archaeopteryx> Fallen|away: i can help you [11:43] <ctalbert> Awesome. [11:44] <ctalbert> Thanks. I'll see if I can write something for the english media. [11:45] <ctalbert> brb any comments from the test day? [11:45] <Archaeopteryx> question about the next one with the new time zones [11:46] -->| fheiss (flynn@moz-F2D6CEA9.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #calendar-qa [11:46] <Archaeopteryx> how do we check everything is correct? do we get a page with the event times in utc? [11:46] <fheiss> is there a way to auto-save remote calendars (so I can view while off-line)? [11:48] <ctalbert> ok I'm back something came up here at work. [11:49] <ctalbert> Archaeopteryx: We can verify it on the worldmeeting site: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/advmeeting.html [11:49] <ctalbert> fheiss: Not yet, that's a current issue...bug 367263 [11:49] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367263 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, download ics files before processing them [11:50] <ctalbert> Ok. We have a lot of issues on both the QA Wanted list and the QA Discussion list. I doubt we'll get through them all before our time runs out, so let's move to that. [11:51] <ctalbert> We'll start with the QA Discussion list: http://tinyurl.com/yhwge4 [11:52] <ctalbert> bug 214042 is first [11:52] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214042 enh, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Usability: reduce mouse movement by placing for-/backwards arrows near each other [11:53] <ctalbert> Looks like Damian wants to set this to "wont fix" [11:54] <ctalbert> I agree with jminta's comment, that it doesn't make sense to have arrows next to items that do the same thing. [11:54] <ctalbert> Any other thoughts? [11:54] <fheiss> and a web search seems to say that syncing google calendar and sunbird are not easy? [11:55] <mschroeder> but it's true the arrows are not optimal [11:55] <ctalbert> I agree. I think we should leave this open for some future UI decision. Perhaps the "polish" release...I think that was 0.7 [11:55] <mschroeder> something like a pair of arrows on one side would be better [11:55] <ctalbert> that's a good idea [11:56] <ctalbert> Let's leave it open for now, I'll go ahead and confirm it (because we'd liek to fix it one of these days). [11:56] <mschroeder> okay [11:57] <ctalbert> bug 231670 is next [11:57] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231670 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Selecting Neighboring Events In The Event List Pane Does Not Set The Correct Month In The Calendar B [11:58] <ctalbert> Looks like we can WFM this one. We have two folks taht can't reproduce it. [11:59] <mschroeder> that's okay [11:59] <ctalbert> 242486 [12:00] <ctalbert> I didn't think we had ability to email tasks in the current sunbird... [12:01] <ctalbert> fheiss: a google calendar provider will be hopefully landing within a week, that will make syncing with google calendar much easier from sunbird. [12:01] <mschroeder> we don't have it [12:02] <ctalbert> Then this ought to stay open. I know we don't send them via iTIP yet... :-| [12:02] <mschroeder> should we leave it unconfirmed? [12:03] <ctalbert> For now. I'll ask dmose whether or not emailing tasks is on the horizon for 1.0 [12:03] <fheiss> ctalbert: oh, great.. this would be a plugin or in a new build? [12:03] <ctalbert> an extension [12:03] <fheiss> ctalbert: that's fantastic... thanks [12:03] <mschroeder> okay [12:03] <ctalbert> bug 243144 [12:03] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243144 maj, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Editing any event causes all alarms to go off [12:04] <mschroeder> it's a problem of not saving dismiss and snooze, I think [12:05] <ctalbert> I think you may be right on that. I think we should leave that one open for more conclusive testing. [12:05] <mschroeder> I think, there are other bugs on that issue [12:05] <ctalbert> I think so too. [12:06] <ctalbert> also, I think the next one is a dupe (273376) [12:06] <ctalbert> I think one of th Sun guys is working on a search remote calendar dialog. [12:06] <bbbrowning> yes, for *DAV there's already discussion of this in a couple of bugs [12:07] <ctalbert> cool [12:07] <bbbrowning> 355270 and 306495 [12:08] <ctalbert> thanks [12:08] <ctalbert> bug 287522 [12:08] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287522 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, segfault on startup [12:09] <ctalbert> I haven't seen this, but I don't test regularly on linux. [12:09] <ctalbert> looks like he was on debian [12:09] <ctalbert> leave it for testing [12:10] <mschroeder> i think, it's invalid [12:10] <mschroeder> but leaving open is okay [12:11] <ctalbert> Why do you think it's invalid? (because perhaps we should mark it as such). [12:12] <bbbrowning> I'd WFM it, given the age. I use current builds on debian regularly without segfaults. [12:12] <ctalbert> Thanks bbbrowning [12:12] <mschroeder> It's no configuration we support and if the reporter can't test it himself, it is not important. [12:12] <ctalbert> mschroeder: good point. [12:12] <ctalbert> bbbrowning: Can you take a look at the next one? bug 288686, something to do with caldav.... [12:12] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288686 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, added categories do NOT accompany remote calendars [12:12] -->| Fallen (kewisch@moz-F1D3CA92.kewis.ch) has joined #calendar-qa [12:13] <bbbrowning> looking ... [12:15] <Fallen> Anything interesting happen in the chat? [12:15] <bbbrowning> It's not clear to me how you'd actually make that work in caldav. can report back on it next week [12:16] <ctalbert> ok. Thanks. [12:16] <ctalbert> Fallen, we're going through the QA Discussion bugs [12:16] <Fallen> ah [12:16] <ctalbert> The next one is bug 296563 [12:16] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296563 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Events this calendar month should use selected month not current [12:17] <ctalbert> Should "Events in this calendar month" show you events in your current month (i.e. January) or should it be in the *selected* month of the view [12:17] <ctalbert> To me, it sounds like it should show you events in your current, calendar month, January. [12:17] <ctalbert> What do you think? [12:18] <Fallen> I think there should either be two itemms for that, but if not then the current month January [12:18] <ctalbert> Right, if there were a "show events in selected month" as well... [12:20] <ctalbert> I think we should check with jminta about whether or not he intends to put end time in the month view for bug 307892 [12:20] <firebot> ctalbert: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307892 enh, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, New event 'End Time' not showing on screen, very useful for printing too!! [12:20] * ctalbert doesn't think any other application does that. [12:21] <ctalbert> We have ten minutes left [12:21] <ctalbert> We aren't going to make it through all the discussion bugs, and we haven't started the QA Wanted yet. [12:21] <ctalbert> Does anyone have a bug that they need discussed? Either a QA Wanted bug or a QA Discussion bug? or some other issue? [12:22] <ctalbert> I'd like to use the last ten minutes on any bug that's blocking folks that are here.... [12:22] |<-- fheiss has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: Leaving) [12:23] <mschroeder> Fallen has some short things to report, I think. [12:23] * ctalbert imagines him typing furiously on his cell phone [12:24] <mschroeder> I told me these things. :) [12:24] <mschroeder> Bug 365812: Working on it. Contacted Sean, he gave me a link which seems ok now, contacted him shortly, awaiting reply. [12:24] <firebot> mschroeder: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365812 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Time zone error from a Google calendar [12:24] <mschroeder> and the second one [12:24] <mschroeder> Another small thing he came across, bug 278152 seems to be invalid since that function is not in the newest build, just wanted to make sure I am not missing anything. [12:24] <firebot> mschroeder: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278152 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, A relative calendar path causes an ugly error when you try to publish. [12:25] <mschroeder> Fallen told me to report these things. [12:26] <ctalbert> I'll check into 278152 and see if I can mark it as invalid then. [12:26] <ctalbert> I encourage everyone to go through the QA Wanted and QA Discussion list and see if we can clear some of these out of here. Our QA Wanted list is getting long again. [12:27] <mschroeder> 231724, 252387 are invalid because we have no vCalendar import and export in latest builds [12:27] <ctalbert> true. [12:28] <ctalbert> I was able to fix my parents computer without a windows restore, so I wasn't able to test 361800 last weekend [12:28] <firebot> mschroeder@mozilla.x-home.org set the Resolution field on bug 231724 to INVALID. [12:28] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231724 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, RESO INVALID, Exporting vCalendar file format incompatible with some external devices [12:29] <firebot> mschroeder@mozilla.x-home.org set the Resolution field on bug 252387 to INVALID. [12:29] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252387 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, RESO INVALID, vCal files are in format 2.0 which is not accepted by Palm Desktop [12:29] <ctalbert> thanks mschroeder ^^ [12:30] -->| Archaenix (itsme@DB2F5EC9.3F3B6298.34DB2EEE.IP) has joined #calendar-qa [12:30] <ctalbert> All right, we're out of time. Keep up the good work. [12:30] |<-- Archaeopteryx has left irc.mozilla.org (Ping timeout) [12:30] <mschroeder> Bug 363244 is invalid in my opinion, it makes absolutly no sense. [12:30] <firebot> mschroeder: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363244 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, exported calender file (.ics) keeps coming back after being deleted & Sunbird uninstalled [12:30] <ctalbert> let me see... [12:31] <ctalbert> very odod [12:31] <ctalbert> odd [12:31] <firebot> mschroeder@mozilla.x-home.org set the Resolution field on bug 286423 to INVALID. [12:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286423 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, RESO INVALID, Import of .VCS file attachment from Thunderbird only gets part of Notes section [paste vcalendar 1.0 [12:32] <ctalbert> no it doesn't make any sense, but since it's a recent bug, I'll at least attempt to reproduce it before marking it as invalid or "out of our hands" [12:33] <mschroeder> okay :) [12:33] |<-- Fallen has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared!) [12:34] <firebot> daniel.boelzle@sun.com cancelled first-review?(lilmatt@mozilla.com) for attachment 251928 on bug 312084. [12:34] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312084 nor, --, ---, daniel.boelzle@sun.com, ASSI, Printing shouldn't use a tempfile [12:34] <ctalbert> Ok. I'm going to have to leave the "chat" here at the moment. I've got a bunch of non-mozilla work clamoring for attention over here. [12:34] <ctalbert> Thanks a lot everyone!
